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Scaling technology is one thing, but scaling technical teams is quite another. In this episode, we talk with author Jurgen Appelo about his “unFIX” pattern for scaling agile teams. We talk about the challenges of scaling agile teams, team empowerment, innovation, managers and mentoring. Jurgen is author of multiple books, including “Management 3.0” and most recently “Startup, Scaleup, Screwup”.